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Related Pages. The chapter covers about clubs in Western Washington. She also has an interest in empowering women in particular — including herself. On the other hand, she was looking for an interest she could share with her husband, Gary. People find clubs through work, other social organizations or word of mouth. The BetterInvesting website lists clubs, and many also list meetings on Meetup.
Prospective members attend a few times before existing members vote to add them. That makes clubs a long-term commitment — which also helps solidify social bonds. Monthly meetings are structured and organized, although many involve a pre- or post-meeting happy hour. Many meetings went online during the pandemic, and some were always online. But some groups have started meeting in person again or holding hybrid meetings.
I sat in on a hybrid meeting that began with in-person members in Gig Harbor sharing lasagna; I ate my own lasagna at home and chatted via video with Glein and the other members before the club got down to business. Each meeting includes an education segment as well as reports on individual stocks the club owns and others on its watchlist.
Club members vote on buying or selling stocks. Every member takes an active role in doing and sharing research. But the principles help members evaluate all their investments — how much a given asset is worth, how to evaluate expert opinions and when to sell.
There are clear benefits to the discipline and decision-making typical of investment clubs. By maintaining a strict regimen of regular meetings, investment clubs force individual investors to adopt an active investment style, in which portfolio review is ongoing and investment decisions—whether to buy, sell, or hold—are constantly made.
Furthermore, the decision-making power of the investment club resides in its democracy. Each member brings their own education, experience, and skills to the group, all of which are used to their fullest when evaluating and debating a decision. The power of the investment club comes from the collective talents of numerous individual members. Podcast Episodes. Practice Management. Financial Advisor. Your Money. Personal Finance.
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While you don't have to do it every meeting, it is a great idea to have presenters educate members on various topics. Many clubs even invite in speakers to share stories and information with the club. This is a great way to mix it up so it doesn't get boring , while still being helpful and educational. Finally, you have to have some fun! If you don't, members could get bored easily. It starts with selecting a fun name, and maybe even fun director titles.
You should also think about food or snacks for your meetings. If you meet at someone's house, do they cook each time? What about meeting at a restaurant each week? Whatever you choose, make sure that you feed your members! Finally, you could even use some of your profits to go on fun outings.
I've heard of some groups committing to vacations with their investment earnings - trips to Hawaii or other fun destinations. While not common, it certainly mixes things up and makes it fun. Today, technology has made trading free. We've talked about the free apps for investing before.
As such, if reducing costs was one of your primary concerns for starting an investing club, you might look into using a service like M1 Finance. M1 Finance lets you build a portfolio of stocks and mutual funds commission free. This is huge for investing clubs. Now, you can still have a "club" that discusses investment ideas, but each member can have their own account and trade in it for free. This saves you the cost of creating an LLC, and it lets you not have to worry about a lot of compliance issues.
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Find And Organize Potential Members. Setup An Organizational Structure. Build a Common Agenda. Alternatives To Investing Clubs. Find And Organize Potential Members The first thing you need to do is find and organize potential members. Once you've identified potential members, ask yourself the following: Do you trust them with your money?
Do you trust them to pay on time? Will they do their own research? Will they contribute to conversations? Is unorganized and doesn't keep records? Has trouble pulling the trigger - either to buy or sell? While none of those individual may be a deal-breaker, you should ask yourself and confirm. Setup An Organizational Structure Once you've found some potential members, you need to setup an organizational structure for your investment club.
Once again, since you're dealing with money, it's always good to have two people looking after it. Along with the positions, decide how they are elected and how long they stay in the position. Many clubs do a one year term, but some do longer. Also, decide on what each person does. Who actually places the physical trade? Who runs the educational aspect? Who does the taxes? These are all logistical things that are important to consider early on.
Time and Place: Decide a time and place to meet. The smaller the club, the easier it is to meet at a home. Many clubs meet monthly, some more often, some less often. For example, one of the most famous investing clubs, the Beardstown Ladies , meet and invest every month. Club Rules: You should also setup basic rules for the club. For example, you should have semi-defined rules for buying and selling, how to handle payouts and distributions, how to payout a member if they quit, how to add a member who wants to join, how to end the club.
Remember, things happen, life changes. You have to plan for these things early on so that the club can continue smooth sailing when they do happen. Record Keeping: Every member will always want to know what their percentage of the equity is, so it is important that you keep accurate records at all times.
Decide on how you will do this and how you will communicate it to club members. The simplest way to do this is to have a Google Spreadsheet with everyone's contributions visible.
Also, why do so many students end up in RX restructuring I think? I've never even heard of the majority of the firms listed above. Ignorance of a hs student I guess I would add that you should join WITG's development team as a freshman, regardless if you had any previous investing experience. I thought I knew a lot going into undergrad, but it turned out I was a complete bucket head. Don't come in thinking you know everything or even a little because it will backfire when you get called out in an interview.
I actually just found out the presidents yesterday thanks to galoi, and I'm pleasantly surprised since both are good people, both in terms of personality and technical knowledge. Seems that HL RX has established a new pipeline, this time including regional locations. Nonetheless, club is in good hands, and it should still be top on campus. This is beating a dead horse now, but WITG is a great club to join. Their development team is a direct pipeline into an investment team, given you participate in the courses As mentioned, the notes and slides aren't publicly available.
Board gives access to sponsors and a lot of corporate firms, but most of the learning is done through investment teams. I got the chance to work alongside one of the Industrials PMs last year, and he was one of the most intimidating, intelligent guys I've met. Viewing him in such a good light, I can't imagine the PMs for Industrials this upcoming year being anything less than good.
For board positions, it's true the process is highly selective, but board members also vary drastically in what they do. The presidents this past year did a killer job with the club; probably 2 of the smartest guys I'll ever meet when it comes to investing, but they were some of the harshest guys as well. They tell it straight to you if they think you're not prepared or suck, but that's what you want. Incoming presidents are also good guys - but agree, they're nowhere close to as hardo as the past years.
Whoever said "work hard play hard" is somewhat accurate; the other person probably has only heard stuff and doesn't know them personally. Sounds like you got rejected from the actual investment teams It's purely to tech and discuss basic investing principals. Lmfao, someone clearly is butt hurt. Not to mention I'm pretty sure the majority of board gets cut before junior year starts so those leadership positions are quite worthless unless you actually do stuff for the club long-term.
Whoever you're talking to either is on a worthless team or has PMs that don't care. Once again, it depends on the upperclassmen - I'm sure some of the teams like CR or Macro care more about other "fun" things than actually teaching stuff. I know a team that literally discusses news articles for the majority of the semester - if you care more about techs or modeling, then switch teams.
But if you do have solid PMs, then your experience will be fine. Notice that everyone here has referenced 3 groups specifically. That's where most of the clubs good reputation comes from. They meet every Sunday in Huntsman, and investment teams meet once a week so I don't know where you get your information from.
Also, WC has a rule where clubs must adhere and show up to room bookings, or else they lose the privilege to book rooms. I saw all of the club's bookings when I worked part-time, and they showed up every week.
Curious to see if you actually go to Penn because everyone knows Wharton doesn't have any student-run investment funds under the name. It's against council policy for any club to invest real money, so you're right that it's not a "real student-run investment fund. Investment teams provide the true learning and development, and they've clearly taught something just looking at the breakdown for SA results. I've been a part of the club for 3 years now, and the only reason I continue to stay is for the mailing list and resume lol.
I've talked to tons of the people that are on board in my grade, and a good amount of them haven't even received super days with any firm; they didn't even bother networking even though the network is handed to them on a silver platter. Don't even get me started on WHFC Lol this thread is actually blowing up Wharton culture in a nutshell.
OP, if you can join one or more of those forefront mentioned groups as a freshman just do it, no harm in dropping some later on. You essentially just need to find some upperclassmen who are happy to point you in the right direction and the rest is up to you to learn by yourself. At the end of the day it's about how much effort you want to put in and how much you actually enjoy doing investing. You will also discover that outside of a small group of finance hardos nobody cares whether you're in PIA or whatever.
Just find a nice group of people you vibe with, do the pitch comps and enjoy college. Ty for the advice! I didn't expect so many people to respond, both on here and in the private messages. It seems a lot of this stuff depends on the people running the club and the individual groups. Other WITG groups may be a bit more iffy. In the end, I'm going to see if I can talk to as many people as I can at the fair to see these people for myself.
Just a side question - do you think the majority of people at Wharton or people studying finance care a lot about reputation and such. The other vibe I got off of this is that there's even a sort of ranking for clubs. But even internally with all these groups, it seems there's so much competition that really shouldn't be competition. Saw this thread earlier but didn't expect this to still be at the top of WSO. I graduated kind of recently so these are my thoughts from both my own experience and a campus recruiting POV.
I did WITG during undergrad, but I had three completely different experiences with three different teams. One of the teams actually cared about our learning experience and pushed us to enter the multitude of pitch competitions, but another team had people similar to what rubicon described though I will say the PMs favored certain students and didn't care about the rest of us.
The last team provided supplementary content, but it was a great learning experience for everyone. In the end, people will have both positive and negative experiences with clubs. WITG has been one of the only clubs that hasn't received much criticism on the preprofessional front since they have some of the smartest people and the best job placements, but they've gotten some negativity due to the tight recruiting process and cold treatment to people that couldn't make it in.
Rather than "WITG" as just a name on your resume, it's what you do with the club that matters a lot more. When I was recruiting, I was interviewed by many WITG alumni, and they always asked for details about what I was doing, whether it be pitches or who was PM of my group. Similarly, I've always asked prospective candidates about what they do in the club. If they're just planning events, then it doesn't mean much to me since it's not relevant to learning actual material.
But, if they listed they pitched at the meetings or competed in competitions, then it leads to an interesting discussion. Like so many people have mentioned, it's the upperclassmen that run the group that make the difference. I personally loved it when PMs talked about their junior year summer experience; I recommend anyone that's not a senior to ask the current seniors about their summer experiences because some of the guys and gals at the boutiques did a lot of cool work. I would also agree to the point GPS and PIA were insanely difficult to make it into, even if you had a semester's worth of experience.
GPS was primarily fit based where they pick your brains to see how you think when it comes to investing, which also means there's not really a way to prepare. PIA had a lot more technical questions in the interview process, which I think means you can at least prepare a bit if you read up on any of the IB guides out there. Take this with a grain of salt since I'm not on campus anymore, and it changes a lot every year.
Just knowing all of these clubs and names means you're ahead of the pack. Like others have said, you shouldn't stress too much about these. Just be yourself and make an effort to talk to the juniors and seniors. You never know who's going to be interviewing you come junior year, or sophomore year given how absurd this new timeline is.
This post is literally the embodiment of Wharton culture Lol. Everyone here has made some good points, but there are important things to mention:. Let's be real here, Wharton Council doesn't hold anyone accountable and that's why you have at least 20 Wharton clubs that end up on someone's resume, but nobody knows what the club is. Even within clubs, accountability matters.
Just using WITG as an example, the PMs that hold the underclassmen accountable for learning material and working are the ones that are good. Sure, meetings are held every week, but not everyone shows up. When I was in WITG, PMs had attendance requirements and deadlines - you were given 1 freebie and then you were booted, and it meant that everyone in my group worked and learned a lot.
Also, the reason that only people make President and everyone else disappears is because those 2 people were held accountable - they had a track record of doing their work and meeting deadlines; they showed interest in investing and finance; they proved to both the PMs and old Presidents that they were genuinely likable people.
On the other hand, I heard from people in the Healthcare group that they do absolutely nothing when it comes to legitimate technicals and learning. All they do is just sit around and discuss what's "hot" in the industry, which is something you could just do on your own and doesn't require any guidance or mentorship. This applies to all clubs and not just WITG. Some of the clubs without good reputation lack accountability, which means the work produced and the people produced are terrible.
Those are the bs clubs that end up on the resume for no reason. I'm not going to list clubs, but you'll be able to figure it out when you step on campus. Most Wharton students are guilty for this, and even OP is. Imagine not even stepping a foot on campus and just asking what group sends the most students to GS and MS Scrolling through this thread, everyone talks about what clubs or groups sends the most people to these prestigious firms. As much as people say it doesn't matter, it matters a lot for image and reputation, especially to freshman.
All these underclassmen pick clubs based on how "smart" or what firm the other club members are going to. If I was 18, of course I would sign up for the club that sent 15 kids to GS as opposed to the one that sent 3. As a result, what you see is that "good" and "smart" literally means that they placed well with recruiting. A guy can be a complete idiot and get GS TMT , and he's all of a sudden one of the smartest people on campus.
I'm surprised no one called rubicon out for not taking recruiting seriously and now he's scrambling to find a FT job - that's a low-blow many Wharton kids would use since people in his scenario are usually looked down upon; it would also explain why he's had such a bad experience. It's just culture here, and it's never going to change. The exception is that some people are genuinely smart and passionate about investing - those tend to be the ones that go direct to buy side and some top RX shops.
There are tons of people that land solid jobs and are smart people, but they simply can't teach. Sure, some of the investment teams like SSG and Industrials have good mentors, but it's impossible for each and every group to be the same. Your best bet is to just make it into multiple investment teams and clubs, and then determine for yourself whether it's worth it or not.
At the end of the day, most of this stuff is self-driven. If you care about going to the firms you listed, you'll make an effort to learn from even the worst groups. Wharton in a nutshell Lol. Bump on this for a diff reason. Don't go to Penn but curious to see job placements, both for everyday members and for higher ups. Our club at a diff target tracks firm placement, and I wanted to compare - although we don't send many people to NY. Incoming freshman for Fall and unsure how to do club recruiting in this environment.
If classes are online, honestly not the worst idea - not for the club reasons spelled out above, but for general culture reasons. I TA for one of the classes at Penn and have been meeting with my prof to discuss the upcoming fall. Sint illum ratione est a. Natus amet exercitationem modi quis.
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